
Why Christians should not celebrate Christmas
In the first place, Christmas is not a Biblical doctrine. If our Lord wanted us to celebrate His birthday, He would have told us when to celebrate it and how to celebrate it. Christ however never told anyone to celebrate His birthday. We also know from the Bible and from Church History that the Apostles and the early church never celebrated Christ's birthday.
In fact, there are only two birthday celebrations recorded in the Bible; and each of them is connected with murder. The Bible tells us in Genesis 40:22 that on one of Pharaoh's birthdays he murdered his chief baker while a big celebration was going on. The other birthday celebration recorded was that of Herod, when he had John the Baptist murdered. I personally believe that God purposely had these two birthday celebrations recorded to warn and to teach us and to show us that the Lord has no pleasure in birthday celebrations or anniversaries.
The Bible is God's complete and final revelation to man and it tells us everything we need to know for our spiritual lives (2 Timothy 3:16). We do not have to go outside the Bible for anything. God's Word tells us how we are to worship, how we are to give money for the support of the Lord's work, how to evangelize the lost, how to observe the Lord's Supper and everything else pertaining to Christian living. Not once in the Bible does God tell us to celebrate Christmas! We are told to remember the Lord's death, but nowhere are we told to celebrate His birth.
God's people are supposed to be Bible people. We are supposed to live by the teaching of God's holy Word. So the very fact that Christmas is never mentioned in the Bible is sufficient reason for us not to have anything to do with it!
Secondly, Christ was not born on December 25. Luke 2:7, 8, 15 "And she brought forth her firstborn Son, and wrapped Him in swaddling cloths, and laid Him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn. Now there were in the same country shepherds living out in the fields, keeping watch over their flock by night. So it was, when the angels had gone away from them into heaven, that the shepherds said to one another, “Let us now go to Bethlehem and see this thing that has come to pass, which the Lord has made known to us.”
The point is that the shepherds were in the fields taking care of their flocks on the night Jesus was born. As the shepherds were watching their sheep, the message came to them of the birth of Jesus. It is a well-known fact that December falls in the middle of the rainy season in Palestine and that the sheep were kept in the fold at that time of the year. The shepherds always corralled their flocks from October to April. They brought their sheep from the mountainsides and the fields no later than October 15 to protect them from the cold, rainy season that followed that date. So the birth of Christ could not have taken place at the end of December.
Luke 2:1 & 3 tells us that at the time of the birth of Jesus it was decreed that ". . . all the world should be registered. So all went to be registered, everyone to his own city". This could not have taken place in the winter. Caesar Augustus, the ruler at Rome, would certainly not call for such an event in the middle of winter. Travel at this time of the year is extremely difficult; hence, it would be virtually impossible for everyone to comply with the decree if it had been given then. The Lord himself testified to the rigors of travelling in winter, for He told the people to pray that their flight at the end of this age would not be in winter (Matthew 24:20).
No one knows the exact day when Jesus was born, but in all probability He was born sometime during the first latter part of September and the first part of October. We can be reasonably sure of this because His earthly ministry lasted three and a half years and He was crucified on the fourteenth day of the month of Nisan, which corresponds to our April (John 19:31; Leviticus 23:5). If we go back three and a half years to the time when Jesus was 30 years old, when He began His public ministry, we come to the month of October. This was probably the month when our Lord was born.
We must however remember that it is not the date of Jesus' birth that is important. The important thing is that He was born and that He died for our sins. We are not worshipping a helpless infant lying in a manger. We are worshipping a risen and exalted Christ who has all power in Heaven and in earth (Matthew 28:18).
Where do we suppose Christmas originated? Certainly not with God! Christmas started with the sun worshippers during the time of Nimrod, the man who supervised the building of the tower of Babel. Thousands of years before Jesus was born, the heathen in every country observed December 25 as the birthday of a god who was called the sun god. Semiramis, the widow of Nimrod, was his mother. She claimed to be the queen of heaven and she had a son who was supposed to have been born on December 25; his name was Tammuz.
According to all the heathen religions of that time, Tammuz had a miraculous birth and for centuries his birthday was celebrated with feasts, revelry, and drunken orgies. The heathen celebrated Tammuz's birthday according to the very example he set for them. He was the world's greatest lover of women, strong drink, dirty jokes and other sensual fun. It is said that he loved everybody and everybody loved him and it was December 25 that all the pagan religions celebrated the birthday of Tammuz, the sun god.
This is all clearly brought out in Alexander Hislop's great book, The Two Babylons. Any reputable encyclopaedia will also verify these facts.
Some will say, "We cannot help it if we were born into a pagan world. We cannot help it if we were reared and steeped in pagan doctrines and customs." Oh, yes we can! Christ said, "You shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." There is only one righteous thing that we can do with these pagan holidays and that is to repudiate them and have no part in them. The virgin birth of Christ is a blessed fact, but the Christmas celebration is a wicked and ungodly thing.
It is plain to see, is it not, that Christmas is a pagan holiday that came out of pagan Babylon? As born-again believers, we should have nothing to do with it.
Thirdly, Christmas is a Roman Catholic Church holiday. As a Pentecostal, Protestant, why should I pinch Christmas from the Roman Catholics? They got it from the pagans, and I am happy to let them keep it.
Encyclopaedia Americana has this to say about Christmas and Catholicism: “It was according to many authorities NOT celebrated in the first centuries of the Christian church as the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of a remarkable person rather than their birth. A feast was established in memory of the Saviour in the FOURTH CENTURY. In the Fifth Century the Western Church (Roman Catholic) ordered it to be celebrated forever on the day of the old Roman feast of the birth of Sol. The holly, the mistletoe, the yule log and the wassail bowl are of pre-Christian times. The Christmas tree has been traced back to the Romans. It went from Germany to Great Britain."
Encyclopaedia Britannica has this to say about Christmas: "Christmas (i.e., the Mass of Christ) was not among the earliest festivals of the church."
Just take the word Christmas itself and break it down. What does it mean? The mass of Christ. The mass is a prayer that is read or sung for the soul of a dead person. Born-again Christians do not have anything to do with masses and yet multitudes of professing Christians will say "Merry Christmas," never realizing that when they do this they are actually mixing the precious and holy name of Christ with a demon holiday.
The Lord tells us in unmistakable language that we are not to mix His name with any pagan holiday or with a pagan god. The Lord says in Ezekiel 20:39, "..... profane My holy name no more …"
Christmas (let me repeat it) is a Roman Catholic holiday. We got it from the Catholics and they got it from the pagans. It was on December 25 that the pagans of the Roman Empire celebrated the birthday of their sun god. After Constantine, the Roman Emperor, won the battle of the Milvian Bridge, he forced all the pagans of his Empire to be baptized into the Christian Church. Baptized pagans therefore far outnumbered the true Christians.
Since the Church worshipped Jesus as the Son of God, when December 25 rolled around and the pagans wanted to worship Tammuz, their sun god, Constantine knew that he would have to do something. So he had the church combine the worship of Tammuz with the birthday of Christ and a special mass was declared to keep everyone happy. As such, pagan worship was brought into the Christian Church and called ‘Christ-mass’. And yes, every time we say "Merry Christmas," we're actually mixing the precious and holy name of Christ with paganism!
That brings me to the next reason why I do not celebrate Christmas. Christmas is of the world, and we are commanded, "Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him" (I John 2:15).
The very fact that the world, which hates Christ and His blood atonement for sin, makes more fuss about Christmas than any other holiday proves to me that Christmas is not of God. If December 25 was truly the birthday of the blessed Son of God, the world would have nothing to do with it! One does not have to be a Christian to celebrate Christmas. Even in non-Christian countries like Japan, Czechoslovakia, Poland and Russia the people celebrate Christmas.
People throughout the world, who for the most part have no awareness of the Bible or Jesus Christ, eat up the Christmas celebration. To take Christmas from the world would be harder than taking candy from a child.
In Luke 16:15, Christ made this remarkable statement: "…. what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God”. Our Lord said that anything which men highly esteem is an abomination before God. Do people not esteem Christmas more highly than almost anything else? Does that not tell us that Christmas is not of God?
Let's face it the world is married to the idol of Christmas. In fact, more people get drunk at Christmas than at any other time of the year. There are more big parties and more selfish spending than at any other season. Does that not prove that it is not of God? The world loves Christmas, but it hates Christ.
Another reason why I do not celebrate Christmas is that it is filled with unscriptural traditions. The exchanging of gifts, the Christmas tree, the singing of carols and Santa Claus are all of pagan origin. These all crept into the church during or after the Fourth Century.
There are many unscriptural traditions that have cluttered up the story of the birth of our Saviour. For instance, many people believe that the wise men of the East and the shepherds were together in Bethlehem at the time our Lord was born. Nothing could be further from the truth though. The shepherds came to Bethlehem to see Jesus at His birth. The wise men came to Nazareth to see Jesus when He was almost two years old (Matthew 2:16).
Furthermore, the Bible says nothing about three wise men, nor does it say that they were kings. The fact is the Bible does not give their number at all, but merely states that they were wise men.
Perhaps the worst part of the Christmas celebration is that thousands of parents will teach their children the falsehood of Santa Claus. Children are taught that Santa Claus/Father Christmas makes his home at the North Pole and once each year he fills his sled with toys for the boys and girls who have been good throughout the year. If they are good, he rewards them by bringing them toys on Christmas Eve; and if they are bad, he passes them by.
Is it any wonder that many times when children grow up and learn the truth, they question whether Christ is also a myth?
The Bible says in Colossians 3:9 Do not lie to one another, since you have put off the old man with his deeds And we are commanded in Ephesians 4:25 to ‘put away’ lying and to "…. Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbour ...”
I know that some loving mothers are saying, "Don't you think we should give the children a good time? They do not understand all the paganism behind Christmas."
Let me ask a question of those mothers. Is it necessary to drag the holy name of our Lord down to the low level of fleshly gratification and drunkenness to show the kiddies a good time? A thousand times, no! Let's teach our children the truth about Christmas. God's Word says that we should bring our children up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord (Ephesians 6:4). Why should we dishonour the name of Christ in such a manner under the pretence of showing the children a good time? There are 364 more days in the year during which we can give gifts to our children.
Without question, the most important part of Christmas for most people is buying and exchanging gifts but exchanging gifts has nothing to do with Christ's birthday. Perhaps some people say, "Didn't the wise men give gifts to Jesus?" They certainly did, but they did not give them to one another and their gifts were not birthday gifts, because the wise men did not come to visit Jesus until He was nearly two years old (Matthew 2:16). The shepherds came to visit Jesus at His birth, but the wise men came to see Him nearly two years later.
Giving gifts to a king was a common custom in the Far East and that is the reason why the wise men brought gifts to Jesus, because He was born to be King of the Jews. They were not birthday gifts! So there is no connection between Christmas and the birthday of Christ, in this respect.
Before leaving the matter of exchanging gifts, let me point out that even this is a part of Satan's antichrist program. The greatest Christmas celebration yet to come will be the awful days of the tribulation. During the antichrist's reign, all hell will be let loose. The two witnesses whom God will send to the people of the earth will be killed when God is finished with them. Guess who will kill them? According to God’s word the antichrist will put them to death. “When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them.”(Revelation 11:7)
It is under the antichrist's reign that the last and greatest Christmas celebration will take place. As a result of the death of these prophets of God, the world will be so delighted and thrilled that they will exchange gifts with one another. Here is what the Bible says, "Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth." (Revelation 11:9-10).
What further proof do we need that the Christmas celebration is not of God? Truly the Lord's people should not celebrate Christmas. It is anti-God, anti-Christ, satanic, and unscriptural. The call of God in 2 Corinthians 6:17 is, "Therefore “Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you.” God's command to all His people in Ephesians 5:11 is, ".... have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them...."
What About The Christmas Tree? The Christmas tree is condemned by the Bible. Jeremiah 10:2-4 & 8 "Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, For the Gentiles are dismayed at them. For the customs of the peoples are futile; For one cuts a tree from the forest, The work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They decorate it with silver and gold; They fasten it with nails and hammers So that it will not topple. But they are altogether dull-hearted and foolish; a wooden idol is a worthless doctrine."
Here you have a perfect description of the Christmas tree, called by God, ‘the way of the heathen’ (or Gentiles as they were then). We are commanded not to learn that way or follow it! The Christmas tree is also viewed in this passage as idolatry. The fifth verse says that these trees cannot speak cannot walk and must be carried. Some people misread this to make it say that there is no harm in having a Christmas tree, but that is not what it says at all. Rather, the Prophet Jeremiah tells us that it is vanity and foolishness, and says, "....Learn not the way of the heathen.....”.
Some people will stay up all night to work on an old dead tree. They will trim it all up and stand away a little and admire their handiwork. Then many of them will sit up all night and look at that old Christmas tree. A green tree is mentioned 14 times in the Bible and in every instance it is linked with idolatry! There is not one place in the Bible where God commends the use of the ‘green tree’ in connection with true worship.
Perhaps some wonder why people have a Christmas tree during the Christmas celebration. You can search the Bible through and through, but you will not find a reason for it there. The first decorating of an evergreen tree began with the heathen Greeks and their worship of their god Adonia, who allegedly was brought back to life by the serpent Aessulapius after having been slain and each Christmas, multitudes of people will secure an evergreen tree and dress it up with bright glitter, lights, and tinsel, not realizing that they are following in the tradition of a pagan festival in honour of a false god!
No doubt there are many sincere Christians who think that they are honouring Christ by having their Christmas tree when, in reality, they are dishonouring Him by having anything to do with a heathen festival that God hates.
As you read these lines, perhaps you will say, "I have my Christmas tree but I don't worship it, and consequently, I see nothing wrong with it." Let me remind you, however, that you do not determine what is right and what is wrong. God determines what is right and wrong. If the Christmas tree is not an idol to you, why are you so reluctant to give it up? What are you doing down on your knees when you place your gifts under it?
I want to reemphasize that I do not know of a single thing connected with Christmas that is Biblical. One has to go outside of the Bible to learn of the Christmas tree, Santa Claus, the holly wreath, mistletoe, the Yule log, and all the other things that go along with the Christmas celebration. Let's be honest before God and admit that this is a pagan holiday and a trick of the devil.
Christmas is only good for one thing, to make money for shops, stores and business merchants. Christmas is not in the Bible. The Lord wants us to worship Him the same 365 days a year. We are not worshipping a dead Christ or a helpless infant lying in a manger, but we are worshipping a real and living Christ who lives all year round.
Sometimes well-meaning people will make the statement, "Let's put Christ back into Christmas." This sounds very good on the surface-but beloved, how can you put Christ back into something when He was never there?
While the world celebrates Christmas with its gift swapping and wild parties, what should be our attitude? God's Word makes it plain that we should have nothing to do with this pagan holiday. Let's not associate the birth of the holy Son of God with the pagan traditions of men. Let us heed God's command in 2 Corinthians 6:17 "Come out from among them and be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, and I will receive you.”
Hello Steven,
Yes perhaps we should listen to everything the bible says. Since you deemed it necessary to cite sources from the bible I felt it important to share some the pearls I have found:
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Exodus 21-7
"If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as menservants do."
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Leviticus 20:10
"And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."
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1 Corinthians 14:34-35
“Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.”
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Leviticus 20:9
"If anyone curses his father or mother, he must be put to death."
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Proverbs 31:6-7
"Give beer to those who are perishing and wine to those who are in anguish; let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more."
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Ezekiel 4:12-15
"Eat the food as you would a barley cake; bake it in the sight of the people, using human excrement for fuel."
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Okay Steven so not only should we not celebrate christmas because your book said so but according to you we should also:
- Be allowed to sell our daughters into slavery
- Kill adulterers
- Stop female from talking in church
- Kill children who curse their parents (I suppose this would help being a recession and all - X-Box games are going to be hard to come by)
- Give copious amounts of liquor to those less fortunate (I can see that ending well)
AND FINALLY....WE SHOULD ALL EAST SH*T!!! (sh*t and roast potatoes YUM-YUM)
MEEEEEEEERY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!
ps: TOT I really enjoy your paper, but please keep the religious nuts out of it :)
Dear anonymous
Kindly note that my blog actually has a name attached to it. Secondly, the heading reads, "Why Christians Should Not Celebrate Christmas." As you are obviously not a Christian, the content of this was not intended for you.
Come now Steve,
Who are you to say who is Christian and who is not.
I can clearly see you need an education:
There is not such thing as Czechoslovakia anymore Steve, Russia is over 70% Christian Steve, Poland is 88% christian steve (more than SA steve) and Japan has 2 million christians that may just want to celebrate christmas as well steve.....READ A BOOK STEVE!!!
Secondly if the content was not meant for me why is it the in public domain Steve? I have a right to read anything that is in the public domain Steve.
And finally you still have not responded to my verses - are we to sell our daughters into slavery Steve? Are we to eat sh*t Steve? Please, being such a keen scholar of the bible inform me if I am to eat sh*t...maybe I might consider the virtues of christianity but STEVE PLEASE JUST TELL ME I DON'T HAVE TO EAT SH*T!!!! I mean tell me my soul needs saving, but without the eating of SH*t STEVE!!!
Steve, people like you take life a little too seriously don't you? You take the joy out of life man! I tell you what, wrap some presents up and give them to the needy. See the big smile on their face, the joy you will bring them, try it out...perhaps its not such a bad holiday ;)
Dear (still) anonymous,
I'm not going to go into an endless debate with you. You, like I, have a right to your opinion. I would however like to refer you to the advert on right hand side of this page entitled "Truth behind Christmas" which will prove that I am not the only religious nut that has revelation on this. I have no problem with giving gifts to the poor or anyone else for that matter but Christmas has nothing to do with Christ!
Steve,
To put my name on the board would be lunacy! I know how you bible bashers like to rally up communities to burn the pagans est.
Steve I think thats the major problem I have with religious extremists as yourself, you take the easy way out. Instead of engaging in debate you hide behind a facade of non-confrontational rhetoric because you are to scared of misinformed to address the issued put forward to you.
I'm not a religious man Steve, I am agnostic. I simply concede that I am but a man and cannot tell anyone whether or not there is a God, I simply do not know. Atheists and religious people claim to have a truth, yet a truth is something that can be proven, I am still to see proof of a God.
So I ask you again Steve, please address those verses I quoted to you. Do you agree with them? Please let me know? Because I think this is key!!! If you agree with them it makes you less of a human in my opinion, but if you disagree with them you are going against the word of God....
So what is it Steve? You surely can't just pick and chose which parts of the Bible you believe in, its all or nothing right?
PS: Have a quick prayer, I'm sure God might help
I look forward to your response.
Dear Sir, I am afraid you are avoiding debating the issue. The issue here is Christmas not the Bible or scripture verses.
No Steven,
The two are one and the same. You use scripture to support your theory as to why Christmas should not be celebrated. So I ask you if you support the other scripture I mentioned.
Why are you avoiding my questions Steven?
The verses I put up....DO YOU AGREE WITH THEM? YES OR NO STEVE? ITS A VERY SIMPLE QUESTIONS.
YES OR NO???
Steven,
I think its futile attempting to have an open and honest debate with the likes of you. You are more than willing to quote scripture only when it suits your situation, you are simply willing to overlook other passages in the bible that do not suit what YOU personally believe. Do you not think this is a bit hypocritical?
Through your silence my stance of agnosticism I feel has been vindicated. I do not believe for one second you are a bad person, in fact you probably have a heart of gold!
A heart of love is far more important that conviction of faith. Not being religious and not subscribing to a stone age philosophy of thinking does not make one a bad person, the most evil atrocities committed have come out of religion Steven.
I hope you see Christmas for what is is - a time to spend with the people you love most in the world, to exchange gifts as an act of love not as an act of religion.
I hope you have a very Merry Christmas Steve,
Regards
The Still Anonymous Poster
Dear Sir
I have made it clear that I will not enter into an endless debate with you. One of the reasons for that is your anonimity. I do not get into conversations on a telephone with people who refuse to identify themselves nor will I do so here.
Okay Steven, I have revealed myself.
So now please answer the question.
Do you agree with the verses of the bible that I put forward or not?
Now you have no excuse not to answer me.
Okay then Steve, use your bible and give me your translation as to why you believe:
1) Fathers are allowed to sell their daughters into slavery
Come Steve this is sick! Even you can agree with that surely?
2) We should kill all adulterers(what about he who cast the first stone?)
Dont you think the death penalty is going a bit far?
3) Woman should keep quiet in churches
Do you have woman preachers? If so you are committing a sin Steve!
4) Children who curse their parents should be put to death
You have had children I'm sure Steven? Have they never cursed you once? If they have why did you not put them to death? You directly disobeyed gods word!!!
5)Give alcohol to the dying and poor
You don't think this will have far reaching ramifications?
6)We should eat excrement?
Come on Steve!!! Surely you've never eaten human waste before? Be honest if you have, there's not shame in it if you are following the word of the lord right?
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I appreciate you getting back to me Steve, your faith is strong :)
I really do welcome you giving me your bible's translation of the above mentioned verses, lets see how much they differ.
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Dear John,
I see that you use the NIV and although I prefer the NKJV their content is not that different. It appears that you have been offended by a Christian because the tone of your writing is much too aggressive for someone who is simply debating an issue. I apologise on behalf of whoever this may be as it is not taught by our faith to be offensive. If it was the content of my blog I also apologise as this was not my intention.
With regard to your questions, there are rather simple explanations for them. The first problem is that you are reading scripture totally out of context. You quote from Ezekiel 4 and interpret it as meaning to ‘eat’ excrement. Did you not see what you typed? The excrement, John, was used as ‘fuel’. When I was a young man I used cow dung as fuel on the farm. If I had to reason like you, I would have to ask if your ancestors ate coal or whether you ate electricity.
The Bible, John, is not a book but it is a library consisting of 66 books divided into an Old Testament (39 books) and a New Testament (27 books). The Old Testament consists of 5 books of law, 12 books of history, 5 books of poetry and wisdom and 17 books of prophecy (divided into major and minor prophets). So, when interpreting scripture one has to consider whether it is a historic event, a prophecy or perhaps part of a poem.
Were fathers permitted to sell their daughters into slavery? Yes sir! Not because it was an instruction from God, John, but because it was the custom at the time. When reading a history book that records that women were not allowed to vote in England or that black people were slaves in America. Does that imply that Gordon Brown is evil or that Barak Obama instructed Americans to practise slavery?
The New Testament was written almost 2000 years ago. Do you not think that customs in those cultures were slightly different to ours? So, even when interpreting New Testament scripture, this has to be taken into consideration. The Epistles written by Paul, Peter and others were nothing other than letters written to churches or individuals. Does everything that your friends write to you about apply to me?
The practise among those who study the Bible is to take these things into consideration. In addition to that we read the Old Testament in the light of the New and we never draw conclusions from loose standing verses. The practise is to read all the verses before and after the particular verse. The division into chapters and verses is also a modern practise. No one writes a letter in chapters and verses do they?
There are two primary reasons why I have been reluctant to answer your questions John. Firstly, I have a ‘free’ BLOG on TOTT. If TOTT would allow me to turn it into a questions and answers column in their printed addition I would gladly do so. As this is unlikely, I will treat it as a BLOG. On a blog you are allowed to comment but I am not compelled to answer. Secondly, I am not convinced that you are looking for answers John. It appears that your intention is to make a fool of the poor, ignorant Christian. If this is not the case and you sincerely want answers, then I apologise. In that case, give me your email address and I will gladly answer them. This may not happen in December because even though I do not celebrate Christ(mass), I do have family and friends over during the holiday period.
John, as an agnostic, you are free to enjoy and commemorate Christmas without criticism from me. In fact I wish you a most prosperous holiday season.
Hi Steven,
No I truly do want answers, my gripe is not with Christianity specifically it is with religion in general, I see it as an outdated practice that must be abolished for the good of man.
The reason why I gave those bible passages to you was to gauge whether or not you believed in them.
I fail to understand how Christians refer to the bible as "the word of God" and yet make excuses for some of the content that is in this book.
If we are to believe that the Lord and the Lord alone is responsible for the law and we should practice his teaching then why ignore the selling of a daughter into slavery while agreeing with the 10 commandments? They are all the word of god are we not to agree with EVERYTHING in the bible?
I refer you to the rest of the passage with regards to human excrement "the LORD said, “In this way the people of Israel will eat defiled food among the nations where I will drive them.”
So in other words Steve it is DEFILED food, I know my food and to think that human excrement won't affect the flavour of the food is wishful thinking.
Religion teaches us to stop thinking for ourselves, it forces us to submit to an entity that has never shared its existence to us. And to believe in a talking snake is preposterous!
I think we'll never agree, but I do respect your right to believe and practice that belief, I just dont like it when I feel its being pushed onto other people!!!










